Triumphing Over Chronic Pain and Addiction

Elizabeth Kipp was thrilled to talk with Angie Manson, CEO of Elevate Addiction Services, on her podcast, Going Rogue with Angie Manson! In this podcast episode, “From Pain to Power.” Elizabeth and Angie, two people in recovery, have a heart-to-heart conversation about triumphing over chronic pain and addiction.

Angie and Elizabeth cover many topics, including:

😥Effects of chronic pain
🥗Importance of diet and exercise in all areas of life
🙏🏼Benefits of Qigong Practice
♻️Unresolved trauma and addiction
🤍Healing your mental, physical, and spiritual self
⚕️Disconnect between patients and medical providers
💪🏻Putting in the work with self-care
…and more!


Navigating from healthcare worker burnout to the early drug exposure of children, Angie and Elizabeth explore the complex landscape of addiction.

Elizabeth illuminates the path she took to recovery, embracing therapies like breath work, qigong, Ancestral Clearing, and the crucial role of community support.

Their discussion challenges the identity rooted in trauma and addiction. Elizabeth recounts a pivotal group therapy breakthrough. They underscore the vital need for safe spaces that foster vulnerability and laughter for those healing from addiction.

Tackling gender dynamics and the savior complex, they touch on codependency and the importance of self-care and setting boundaries. Elizabeth courageously shares her 31-year struggle with opioid and benzodiazepine addiction, emphasizing the life-changing impact of a program led by Dr. Peter Przekop that prompted her to reshape recovery programs and confront the relapse stigma.

📚 Timestamped overview

04:44 Relapse clients feel shame and guilt; fear prevents help.

07:48 The treatment program focuses on drug-free recovery.

11:13 Qigong helps people in recovery to heal.

16:23 Feeling safe and open in the right environment.

18:41 Chronic pain steals attention and identity; courage is needed.

22:43 Empowering realization that requires personal introspection.

23:57 Taking accountability for actions, considering chronic pain.

27:11 Opportunity for self-improvement in a safe environment.

32:58 Led 3-part training for mental health professionals.

36:35 Learned to be in service and a peacemaker in the family.

38:07 Balancing service and rescuing in relationships.

40:11 Communication is key, don’t seek solutions.

❇️ Key topics and bullet

Overcoming Chronic Pain and Addiction

  • Elizabeth Kipp’s personal journey of overcoming chronic pain and addiction.
  • The role of personal responsibility and accountability in recovery.
  • The significance of a supportive environment and a high success rate program.

The Multifaceted Nature of Pain

  • Understanding chronic pain as physical, spiritual, mental, and emotional.
  • The brain’s common response to different types of pain.
  • Elizabeth’s accident and subsequent surgeries that contributed to her chronic pain.

Medical Trauma and Healthcare System Issues

  • The compounding effects of medical trauma, surgeries, and inadequate pain management.
  • Disconnect and impact of medical trauma on healthcare workers and patients.
  • The rise of medical trauma awareness during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Burnout among Healthcare Professionals

  • High burnout rate among healthcare workers and its causes.
  • The necessity for tools and self-care practices in healthcare and mental health fields.
  • Angie’s approach to sobriety prioritization in her detox program.

Early Drug Exposure and Its Consequences

  • Early introduction of drugs to children.
  • The potential for grooming young individuals into drug dependency.

Holistic and Alternative Therapies for Recovery

  • Elizabeth’s successful experience with diverse therapies, including breath work and qigong.
  • The importance of community support and Ancestral Clearing.
  • Recognizing multiple paths to treatment and support.

The Role of Emotional Expression in Healing

  • Elizabeth’s journey to emotional expression and overcoming the fear of judgment.
  • The creation of a safe environment for vulnerability and relaxation in recovery settings.

Identity and Chronic Pain

  • The impact of trauma, chronic pain, and addiction on a person’s identity.
  • The importance of personal stories in the healing process.
  • The transition from victimhood to empowerment in overcoming challenges.

Self-Care and Boundaries

  • The necessity of self-care and the metaphor of ‘filling one’s own cup’.
  • The distinction between being in service and being a rescuer.
  • Codependency, setting boundaries, and the gender dynamics in problem-solving.

Elizabeth Kipp’s Addiction and Recovery

Stigma and Trauma Response in Recovery

  • Stigma and shame in the context of relapse during addiction recovery.
  • The connection between trauma responses and addiction relapse.
  • Questioning the agenda of medication-based management in achieving true recovery.

For Recovery Coaching and/or Ancestral Clearing with Elizabeth Kipp, BOOK HERE.



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